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Sales Quote without Customer

July 11, 2016 Posted by Olof Simren Sales 14 Comments

Do you know that you can create sales quotes without having a customer created in Microsoft Dynamics NAV? It’s been like that as long as I can remember but surprisingly many users and also consultants don’t know this and I have seen lots to workarounds with generic ‘quote customers’, etc.

This is a quick blog post describing how you can create sales quotes in Dynamics NAV without having a customer record. This is especially useful for companies that are doing a lot of quotes to prospects that might not turn into customers. With this method you then don’t ‘muddy’ the customer list with companies that are not customers.

The overall concept is that you create a sales quote for a contact instead (leaving the customer no. empty on the quote) and a customer record will be automatically created using a customer template once the sales quote is turned into a sales order. Sounds great, right?

As a start you need to have whoever you are quoting to as a contact in Dynamics NAV, so I start with creating a basic contact record like below (more or less just a name and the address).

Contact-Card-Dynamics-NAV

Now that you have a contact there are two ways to create a sales quote; (1) select sales quotes from the contact card and then click new (which will automatically add the contact to the sales quote) or (2) go to the list of sales quotes from the main menu, select new and add the contact in the sell-to contact no. field. With both methods you end up with a sales quote where the sell-to customer no. is empty (like below).

Sales-Quote-Without-Customer-1-Dynamics-NAV

I know it is a bit confusing that the sell-to customer no. field have a red asterisk in it (those are supposed to be for mandatory fields), I think that’s something Microsoft should fix.

The next step is then to select the sell-to customer template code on the sale quote, this code is something that defines the posting groups, tax setup, payment terms, price groups, dimensions, etc. which are normally the things you find on a customer card. You can setup as many customer template codes as you need to cover the combination of those fields that you need to quote to new contacts (which normally is not that many). In my case I have a US-DEFAULT one that I use for all US contacts that I quote to. When this is selected you can see that the sell-to customer no. field become non-editable and payment terms, etc. are populated on the quote.

Sales-Quote-Without-Customer-2-Dynamics-NAV

A customer template card have the below options (note the dimensions and invoice discounts in the ribbon).

Customer-Template-Card-Dynamics-NAV

It is also worth knowing that there is a bill-to customer template code on the invoicing tab, this corresponds to the concept of having one entity that you are selling to and one that gets the invoice (see bill-to vs. sell-to customer). So theoretically you can have a contact that you are quoting to and another contact that is the billing entity, but I will keep it simple and leave then the same for this example.

Now we have a sales quote with a complete header and we can enter the lines that we are quoting. In my case I am quoting some bicycles to my contact Mikes Bikes.

Sales-Quote-Without-Customer-3-Dynamics-NAV

Now the sales quote can be printed and sent to the contact, completely without having to create a customer record. Nice! 🙂
If the contact now comes back and wants to purchase what you have quoted, you convert the quote into a sales order using the make order function in the ribbon of the sales quote.

Sales-Quote-Make-Order-Dynamics-NAV

During the process of converting the sales quote to a sales order Dynamics NAV recognizes that there is no customer and displays a messages asking if you want to create a customer at the same time.

Sales-Quote-Make-Order-Creates-Customer-Dynamics-NAV

If you select yes on the above message the system will automatically create a new customer based on the default customer number series and the information on the contact card (and link the two), apply the customer template you selected on the sales quote, add the customer to the sales quote and convert the sales quote to a sales order. Wow! 🙂

The final sale order then looks like below (with a customer record).

Sales-Order-Created-From-Quote-Dynamics-NAV

It is worth knowing that if you have multiple sales quotes for the same contact and one of them is converted to a sales order, then Dynamics NAV is smart enough to also update the other sales quotes with the newly created customer number. in addition there is also an action item in the ribbon of the sales quote to create the customer if it is needed to create a customer separately from them function that converts the quote to an order.

So, if you do a lot of quotes to companies that are not yet customers and not all of the quotes turns in to orders then this method could potentially be used to keep the customer list free from ‘non-customers’ and to simplify the quote process (since there is less to setup on a contact compared to on a customer).

That’s all for this post, see you next time! Remember to share. 🙂

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    July 11, 2016 at 11:02 AM

    dear olof,

    thanks for this one (too). you’re damn right! the fact that you can quote without having a customer card in place is largely ignored. but this is due to bigger issue: microsoft and most partners alike simply ignore the fact, that there is NAV marketing (=lean CRM) available in NAV already. it’s generally not setup, trained… let alone used.

    we reviewed roughly 100 NAV databases in the past 12 months and non of them seriously used NAV CRM (or marketing) functionality. most of companies weren’t even aware of the CRM functionality available from standard NAV. and that’s sad!

  • Antonio
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    July 11, 2016 at 12:53 PM

    Great post Olof, as usual…
    I have also a big problem not solved by standard NAV yet… it is sending ‘samples’ to potential customers.
    If you have to go to NAV shipping model (order-picking-shipment) you need to mess with a ‘dummy’ customer card and play with Ship-to-Address… this also really messes up those Delivery Notes that should be invoiced a 0 price.

  • Rose
    · Reply

    July 16, 2016 at 1:25 PM

    Hi Olof,

    This is a great post and I really enjoy reading your helpful tips and tricks.

    Rose

  • SopitV
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    July 21, 2016 at 12:30 AM

    Hi Olof,

    This is a great post and our sale team are using this to create SQ. now but i have a problem when using with Sale quote Approval Workflow. This will pop up a new window to ask sale manager to create customer after click approved. If sale manager doesn’t create customer, Sale quote status is still pending approval. So, I cannot archive/revise SQ. except make order. Could you advise me for this case?

    • Olof Simren
      · Reply

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      July 21, 2016 at 8:27 AM

      Hi SopitV,
      Thanks for your comment.
      I also think this is a bit strange, but that’s the way Microsoft designed it.
      I would look into changing it so that you can release (e.g. approve) a sales quote without having to create the customer. It should be a fairly small change.

      /Olof

      • Chamara
        · Reply

        July 12, 2019 at 12:36 AM

        Hi Olof,

        I’m Facing the same problem when using workflows in NAV 2018 Cumulative 17 version. have you got any solution for this.?

  • Darren
    · Reply

    December 3, 2016 at 11:42 AM

    Hi,

    Thanks for the sharing. I am able to do it NAV 2015 and NAV 2016,

    But I am not able to do Sales Quote without Customer in NAV 2017. I follow the exact same step, it still doesn’t allow me to insert any Sales Line. The whole sales lines are just blocked and not allow me to insert thing.

    Could you please enlighten me?

    Thanks.

    • Olof Simren
      · Reply

      Author
      December 6, 2016 at 9:02 PM

      Hi Darren,
      Thanks for you comment, you are right it seems to work differently in 2017 (if it even works at all).
      Seems like if there is no sell-to customer number then the lines are not editable. So, to me this great feature seems to be gone in 2017. 🙁

      /Olof

      • Tommi
        · Reply

        October 17, 2017 at 9:09 AM

        Hi,

        At first this “new feature” seemed quite odd, but after some testing, I found the “missing” functionality.

        The NAV 2017 has been redesigned a bit, thus making things different. In Sales Quote page, on the General -FastTab, there is “Contact No.” and “Contact” fields. By inserting contact number or selecting from drop-down in to the “Contact No.” -field, you get a confirm dialog: “Do you want to select the customer template?”. From there, the process is quite the same. This may be different in the first 2017 version(s). Also, the “Sell-to Customer Template Code” has been enabled by Global Boolean “EnableSellToCustomerTemplateCode”, on Sales Quote page (41).

        Also, as it relates to the subject, after CU5 in NAV 2017, you are able to create a Sales Quote from a Opportunity, when the contact does not relate to any existing customer (requires, that the Contact has a Company Contact also, obviously). Check CU5, ID 205004. Before CU5, you were forced to create a customer from your contact, before you could create Sales Quote from Opportunity.

  • Thomas
    · Reply

    December 28, 2018 at 8:48 AM

    Hi Olof,

    is something like this also possible for purchasing?
    Creating a purchase request without having a vendor and use a contact or similar instead?

    I would appreciate your help.

    • Olof Simren
      · Reply

      Author
      January 14, 2019 at 11:07 PM

      Hi Thomas,
      No, its only on the sales side of the application.

      /Olof

  • Martin
    · Reply

    June 25, 2019 at 2:06 AM

    Hi all,
    does anybody know, if it is possible to use the approval workflow even when I have no customer no.? Until now I didnt find a solution for that.

    Thank you for your help
    Martin

    • María F.
      · Reply

      August 14, 2019 at 5:45 PM

      Hi Martin,

      Did you find an answer for this? I’m facing the same issue.

      Thanks

      MF

  • Sukanthan
    · Reply

    August 2, 2019 at 11:05 PM

    Hi Olof,
    Thanks for your above article. It was a very useful information and i was using till 2017 version. But there is an error in Nav 2018 version when creating quote using contact. i cannot release it without creating the customer. how we can resolve? and also when try to configure with approval workflow it gives strange behavior. I have updated with latest cumulative update(Version:
    11.0.34561) but still no solution.

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